95% are horn doggies says CNN
well, that's not quite what this article on cnn.com said, but it might as well have.apparently 95% of all people have had premarital sex. for every hundred people in a room, there are only 5 that have not. talk about minority.
anyways, so lemme first say first off (for those that cannot read between the lines) that i do not agree with premarital sex from a biblical perspective. i believe it falls into the category of sexual immorality that we see all over the place in the bible.
oh yeah, and this post IS NOT about marriage (for all of my grey area "where is the marriage ceremony in the bible?" or "where does it say no polygamy?" locos). it is about sex ed.
that being said, let's have a little conversation regarding abstinence education vs. preparation education (condom usage, etc).
i can't help but see the dangers inherent with each education program. of course the prep education has a gaping hole in it - they are not fool proof. boom, dead in the water.
on other one hand, abstinence education teaches the correct and biblical position. we should abstain from all sexual encounters until we have married, then it's on. however, remove the moral implications of an abstinence position and what you come down to is basically someone abstaining for fear of disease or pregnancy, right? proper education about prophylactive devices can virtually remove that risk nowadays. so for the person who does not know god and does not align themselves with the bible's teachings, that's a pretty hard sell.
heathen dude: "so basically, the best thing you got is you might get someone pregnant, you might get the clap, and you will anger a god that i don't believe in?
** out the door looking for that little cheerleader he likes**
but can we really not teach abstinence as an option? it is the only completely responsible methodology (which makes sense because god knows what he is talking about).
now, let's take it deeper (shout out to j-lou & the old school oikos heads)
so i have a son, right? when he's like 18 (i can dream right?), he's gonna ask me about sexual stuff. he'll someday (relatively soon) inquire about that neighborhood of his body that keeps getting kicked by the wacko little girls who clearly have never been taught what goes on down there when you take a boot to it. he's gonna ask about why his friend in english class is "hitting it" with little andrea but he doesn't see any bruising around her eyes.
so what do i tell him? abstain of course (after all of the anatomy bidness that is)
but what about if my son grows up and hits that rebellious stage full force? the partying. the drinking. little andrea ain't so little no more. do i REALLY have the guts to preach "abstinence abstinence abstinence" when i know full well what he's up to?
the realities of biblical principles find their difficulty when the applications enter our home.
- my wife is going out on me - can i really forgive and take her back?
- my son is having premarital sex - can i really not take the easy road and hand him a trojan (no pun intended)?
i hope that someday i have the strength to stand for the right thing in my home in this regard with my son. i must teach him that the BEST way is always the biblical position.
5% is not a lot. but it can be done. and it should. and we should teach our children that it can be done. the statistics are depressing. they need to be encouraged that their choices are their own and not a result of a CNN article.


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Post a Commentthis is an interesting problem. i have had a number of conversations with youth workers in la that are tired and weary of all the kids in the neighborhood getting pregnant. they have a big internal struggle with wandering if they should pass out condoms because there girls get pregnant and school and life is done for some and it is for sure set back. it is easy to say keep it in your pants, but i know for my kids mixed messages are already working overtime... so i have no idea what i will do when it comes around.
do you believe this study's findings (5% v 95%) over the findings of other studies?
Pablo: respectfully - in fact, VERY respectfully - I have to disagree... and not with your premises or arguments, but merely with a presupposition that snuck into your writing when you weren't looking.
First off, let me give you some appreciation for making yourself clear at the beginning of your post, concerning premarital sex and marriage. This will avoid a lot of arguments on unrelated tangents; and I also thank you for taking a firm Biblical stance against premarital sex, as well as all other sexual immorality. Lots of pastors throughout this country have been vocally more permissive.
The biggest problem with preparation education (good label, by the way) is that kids are not stupid. If you teach them how the plumbing works and hand out condoms, the kids will go out and apply their new-found knowledge. They will do so because endorsement is implicit in teaching. If you put a kid in band class and teach him to play the flute, you're endorsing flute playing. If you put him in shop class and teach him how to build a birdhouse, you're endorsing birdhouse construction. If you put him in home economics and teach him how to cook an omelet, balance a checkbook or shop for groceries, he will understand that you are teaching him that cooking, financial responsibility, and a properly stocked pantry are good things that he is expected to do, because you are teaching him things that he understands he is expected to apply.
How would you have reacted if your Driver Ed teacher had concluded the semester by saying "I have now taught you how to operate a motor vehicle - but we don't want you to ever actually get behind a wheel and drive on our roads"? No way - you had the expectation that now that you've learned to drive, someone's going to trust you with a set of car keys!
So why should Sex Education be any different?
The other issue is that abstinence and preparation education are mutually exclusive. As you rightly point out, abstinence teaches the Biblical position on sexuality - that sex belongs solely within marriage, and there are moral implications to having sex, regardless of whether a pregnancy or a disease results. Preparation education teaches that sex has a rightful place outside of marriage, and that what is to be avoided is simply the diseases and the unwanted pregnancies. The underlying premises of the two systems - whether or not there are moral ramifications to sex - are diametrically opposed and mutually exclusive.
As a result, if we try to teach both - "Billy, you shouldn't have sex until you're married; but if you do, make sure you use this condom, and make sure the girl has been tested for AIDS" - only one will wind up getting taught, and this is why: when you get to the phrase "but if you do," here's how Billy is going to hear it:
"... but what I've just said is unimportant and is no big deal, and heed the following instead."
"But if you do" is a wink, and Billy will undertand that it's a wink, because Billy is not stupid. He's smart enough to recognize contradictory instructions, and he will be smart enough to know from what you say that that the second one is the one that matters.
The disagreement I hinted about with you up at the beginning? It's with the acceptance of the inevitability of undesired outcome ("... that rebellious stage... the partying... the drinking... I know full well what he's up to..."). You see, I was that kid you refer to as "heathen dude."
I grew up a complete atheist. Worse than that, my father wasn't in a position to be around, and my mother provided zero moral upbringing or guidance. I didn't come from a Christian home, or even a good home. And yet somehow, by the time I graduated from college - not high school mind you, college - I had never taken drugs, had had a grand total of two beers, and was still a virgin. This, with no religious or parental control, in the middle of the Sexual Revolution.
Now, Gabriel is going to have the advantage of two very good parents, committed to giving him a Christian upbringing; a whole churchfull of Christian brothers and sisters to take part in steering him right; and a very, very big God. On which of these do your doubts and fears rest?
CNN doesn't dictate my life to me, and I reject their idea of normative behavior.
i'm not afraid per se, nor am i afraid to teach truth to my son. what i fear is him trying to press the limits with god. because we know that god disciplines.
you are right with your billy "but if you do" assessment. but it will be pretty hard to not say that if i knew he was involved in sexual immorality. that's just me being real. i'm not saying that i would hand him a condom. it's really easy to tell a parent of a student that they should stand firm and that the kids are choosing the risks if they engage yadda yadda. but honestly, it's gonna be hard to not give in when it's my own.
dude, my kid is 7 months old. i can't predict what he will or will not do. but if i am not prepared mentally to stand for truth exclusively with him , then i will buckle when the times get hard.
it isn't lack of trust in god, because i still trust that god will accomplish his will and that he is in control. but part of accomplishing his will and being in control is allowing consequences to beat us down if we choose sin. god would not stand in the way (i guess he could, but maybe he won't) of my kid knocking up some girl if they were having sex. maybe the fear comes from knowing that god would allow it.
and steve, i've never read another statistic. but it doesn't really matter to be honest with you. the real number, even if it would be less, probably wouldn't shock me any less.
Here's why I think the number matters...peer pressure, spiritual warfare, and political agendas.
Lawrence Finer, who is employed by the pro-abortion Alan Guttmacher Institute (an arm of Planned Parenthood), conducted the study. There is a very clear agenda expressed in the wording & conclusions of the study.
Kids already have enough sexual peer-pressure and temptation. This study makes it seem that it is virtually futile to fight the peer-pressure and temptation, IMO.
It also could easily cause parents and organizations promoting pre-marital abstinence (& marital delight) to give up because of a "why bother" mentality.
The AGI & Planned Parenthood have no place for and no use for God. God is actually much more effective than Lawrence Finer (and whatever being is pulling his strings) would lead us to believe.
As a father of two adult sons, I'd say go with God ... let not your heart be troubled. Do your job as a husband and father -- have a good relationship with Sonia and with Gabriel, teach him to know and follow the Lord, and pray with drops of blood oozing out. :-)
And actually, I think about 99.653% are "horn doggies" apart from the work of Christ.
For a different perspective...
Abstinence Education Advocates Criticize Results of Guttmacher Sex Study
CDC U.S. Teen Sexual Activity
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